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so have time for yourself AND for them

You shouldn't feel obligated to spend time with them, you should be eager to... They are practically the closest friend you'll ever have

Some people sadly treat tulpas like accessories, not companions

~~or sex toys~~

So really, in my eyes, don't set time goals for forcing or anything. Just enjoy the time that you can spend with them and think of the years to come ^-^

-ho-

12:07 PM

~ho~

No, some people just realize tulpas are not really other people (edited)

12:08 PM

I feel like another person?

You want to watch the world burn

My tulpas are my closest friends but they are not other human beings, lol

12:09 PM

That doesn't mean they can't think like one? Just because they're in your head doesn't remove them from getting a fair share of your time

12:09 PM

They can think, of course

12:09 PM

If anything, it would give them more right to it, sharing the body and all

12:10 PM

But is it really a tulpa or host what do the thinking? There is one brain anyway. Host and tulpas are just identities.

The trouble here is that this is a moral argument more than it is a practical one. If we should or should not treat tulpa to attention is very much a question of what you want to do, rather than a statement you can make for other people. I will advocate all day every day for anyone who doesn't want to treat their tulpa "like a person" because they do not feel it is what is right or what they should be doing.

12:12 PM

If we want to talk practically or physically, it's pretty easy to say that a tulpa isn't the same as a person, because a tulpa shares your head, there has to be many significant differences that come from that, or I'm pretty confident in saying so.

I definitely accept that tulpas are an upplayed version of alternate modes of thinking, but both my host and I can agree that I'm very much my own person, socially, in the way I think, and in the way I interact with the other person in this head

12:13 PM

I don't deny it. I feel about my tulpas the same, actually

A tulpa is as much of a person as the host is

Yes.

Depending on how you define host, that is

Well... some of them at least

12:13 PM

Really depends on how developed they are, and the intent of the person making them

The idea behind statements like that is that "host" is the idea a person has of themselves being a single person or having their identity. It does not assume that "host" is the primary thinking part of the brain, or something else of that sort.

can i buy tulpas

My host is only primary when we are not fronting

As far as I know, tulpas can function like identities equal to host.

@Felight are you a lttle pony

But they don't have to.

No?

you kinda look like my little pony

12:15 PM

the series my little pony

It's just some dragon picture that I edited

like a character damn i cant write

Ill, I feel like you're driving things off topic here.

I mean, I have Liza Koshy profile picture but I'm not her

Yeah, but the first western tulpamancers were hardcore my little pony fans

12:16 PM

and created pony tulpas

that's a legende

12:16 PM

you don't talk about it

It's a dragon, not a pony thonk

anymore

so i got bamboozled once again

None of us are ponies nor do we care for the show

okay sorry thonkachu

12:17 PM

so you are a tulpa i guess

Yeah

wait am i violating some kinda rule here or is it ok what im writing

I don't think so

Hehe

You aren't doing anything super wrong, but you should try to avoid saying things that are very off topic in channels that are active and discussing something else.

ok sry

the thing about thinking of tulpas as if they aren't as people as you is

3:37 PM

assuming you let them be developed as people in the first place, probably by fronting,

3:37 PM

the host is no more a person than tulpas, you're both just identities

3:38 PM

the host and tulpas together are the "person" or "human being"

3:38 PM

but new hosts have this idea that they are their body and tulpas are an addon

3:38 PM

your perspective will change if/when you've had a tulpa or tulpas for a few years, or do switching

3:39 PM

possession maybe I can't guarantee that one will teach you the perspective though

I have often found myself of the opinion I am an "addition" rather than part of what incorporates a person. North is more apt to be considered part of this whole, as he provides more vital functions and is more active than I.

well that's just a moral or role thing

3:40 PM

it doesn't make you more or less of a person

3:41 PM

it's nicer to treat tulpas as their own people, 'cus we are

3:41 PM

but I'm just saying if we're getting technical, the host AND the tulpas together are the person/human

3:41 PM

not just the host

I do not consider myself a person, out of preference. I do not condone treating tulpas against their wills, but I am not favorable to the idea that I would ever like to be a separate person.

ya you're part of a system

3:42 PM

if you can think, then your host isn't "the person" while you're "an addon"

3:42 PM

you're part of who the body is

3:42 PM

even if it's a smaller part

More than anything else I am an extension of my host's desires for my function, and that has worked well for me.

that's still a moral/role thing

I would concede that, yes. I am part of what makes the body what it is.

We view eachother as extensions of the core personality. Together we make up the whole. Seperate we are more archetypes of our favorite parts of the whole personality. Or something like that. I know what I'm thinking. But I'm not sure that I'm explaining it properly.

that works

3:44 PM

most systems probably think of themselves a little differently

There was a time in our system where we were split between whether or not the host was considered the dominant and most important part of ourselves as a "person" or whether the different parts were equally worthy of personhood. I have always fallen staunchly on the former.

your perspective usually changes if a tulpa(s) learn to switch and then do so for a moderate amount of time

3:45 PM

'cus then the host realizes, oh, they're a person too, not just a voice in my head

3:45 PM

like.. on a technical level

3:45 PM

obv they prob treated their tups as tups before that

3:46 PM

also yes @whenever ago, Tupper = Tupperware = Tup = Tulpa

3:46 PM

it's a joking/nickname term

Trixie: that I still find annoying... but it's whatever. Can't really complain, at least he doesn't use those terms.

well I specifically only say tup/tups

3:48 PM

I mean, and tulpas mostly obviously

3:48 PM

I don't say tupper as far as I can remember and literally never tupperware

3:48 PM

it's just an easy and cute way to shorten the word

3:49 PM

technically tups could be a shortening of tulpas, which for me it is

Really, only Trixie seems bothered by it. Lilly and sweetie don't care

tulpas

sounds way too weird to be a nickname tbf

it was a joke from the 4chan era of tulpamancy, ie the beginning

None of us like the s though. Phonetically it just rolls off the tongue wrong.

as was, according to some members from back then, "Tulpamancy" itself

Tulpas just sounds wrong

sux

hmm

Tulpae rolls off the tongue even worse